April 10, 2001

Subject: [AztlanNet] Re: CyberArte and Romano
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:42:35 -0000
From: "Kat Avila" <buscandocalifornia@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com
To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com

What we have here is the trivialization and dismissal of a courageous Latina artist's voice. Pedro does it very easily, defaulting to a cultural nationalist's most handy tool - dismiss the in-house opposition as vendidas/os. It doesn't work. Chicanas and Latinas have come far enough that a simple "shut up" isn't all that effective. But we still have a long way to go as this controversy has demonstrated. And it's so-o-o "missionary" to presuppose that an artist doesn't work from a spiritual perspective because it differs from yours.

--Kat

 

Subject: [18thStreetTalk] Alma Lopez
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:59:52 EDT
From: Nadia Reed <QueeneMUSE@aol.com>
Reply-To: 18thstreettalk@topica.com

To: jice@moifa.org

CC: 18thstreettalk@topica.com

Dear Dr. Joyce Ice:

Thank you for your continued support of Alma Lopez's work. I applaud you for defending the rights of museums and arts councils everywhere to display liberating and refreshing feminist viewpoints.

A group of purulent attackers should not be -- and will not be -- allowed to dictate what citizens of the US can see in public museums. It is an egregious offense to censor any artist based on religious or political differences.

From my perspective they are making an un-American and fascist proposal: that this artist withdraw and accept their oppressive male domination. It is appalling and sick.

There is nothing wrong with a women's body and men -- even priests -- do not have the right to say it is ugly or profane.

Please don't let a fanatical few, who clearly do not understand the US constitution, bully you or any other arts organization into backstepping a century or so. Please do not let them feel that women artists or curators are fair game for political and sexual abuse.

Thank you for your time,

Nadia Reed
Arts Educator

 

Subject: [AztlanNet] Re:Tonantzin-Guadalupe sited in Santa Fe
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:35:50 -0000
From: "Pedro Romero Sedeno" <romesedeno@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com
To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com, AnMora@phs.org,Gloria_Mendoza@excite.com, dadsacp@hotmail.com

Alma Lopez's digital print may communicate to some the image of a strong woman, granted, but where is the image of a strong mother? a compassionate Mother?  it's just not in the work or if it is, it is so-o-o obscure. Any "re-interpretation" to be validated intellectually should have some signifiers of motherhood, don't you think? because that's what the Guadalupe is all about.  "To-  Our,  "Nan" -Mother, -"Tzin" - Venerated."  Check your Nahuatl .    I wish I could very much stand and support a Chicana's expression here in Santa Fe; we Chicanos/as are struggling to have our voices heard. But on this one, to refer to this as a "re-image" of our compassionate Mother Tonantzin-Guadalupe is artspeak that I intellectually question.  I have enough brains to read a snow-job, especially  if it comes from the "Museum of International Folk Art".  There is other interesting work by Chicanas in this show that I think have more contextual integrity and I wish could be focused on, believe me.  The presentation of this work by the Museum ,"CyberArte" is like a tongue-in-cheek installation, a chapel format  with digital prints presented with painted frames  like Stations of the Cross, an "altar" on the far wall with a computer in the middle as the tabernacle, side altars decorated with votive candles with electric light flames. It's insane!  Come see for yourself! Why this religious context to present the work? To validate the Museum's notion that these digital prints are to be considered as folk art (more insanity), as within the folk art tradition of New Mexico which is religious folk art (this is what distinguishes it from most folk art tradition in US)  Please know that Hispanos and Chicanos here in New Mexico are tired of seeing our religion, our culture, being used as the butt of some joke, and that's what's going with this CyberArte installation, and we have to pay for it too as it is a state institution.  I am not for censorship, I am an artist myself.  I say keep it up, it shows a big mistake, and that's what mistakes are for, to be corrected. Maybe, we can raise some consciousness with some canto-intelligence , education in our community, more intelligent scolarship on Guadalupe-Tonantzin, instead of "let's go to the Museum and worship the computer".  Ay, Mama'! 

 

Subject: Re: [AztlanNet] Re: CyberArte and Romano
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:26:38 -0600
From: "rudy fernandez" <elbulldog69@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com
To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com


Pedro,

I think that you are quit aware of the fact that the Guadalupana's popularity is much farther reaching than coffers of the "declining U.S. economic machine".

Propaganda, she is a part of the iconography that is used to proselytize in the name of  Christianity. It depends on which side of the fence that you stand whether you would consider it propaganda or not.

The Image of Tonanzin-Guadalupe, have you ever seen the painting of the Guadalupana first hand?

In regard to spiritualized  thinking thinking being analogous to "formalist breakthroughs" I think not. This is an Idea that has already caused enough problems throughout history.

 

Subject: Freedom to exhibit
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:55:02 +0100
From: "Falchikov, Nancy" <N.Falchikov@napier.ac.uk>
To: "'jice@moifa.org'" <jice@moifa.org>
CC: "'almalopez@earthlink.net'" <almalopez@earthlink.net>

I was fortunate enought to be visiting Santa Fe last week and took the opportunity to see the exhibition which included the 'controversial' Virgen de Guadelupe. The whole exhibition was excellent - vivid, stimulating and thought provoking. I fully support your right to exhibit works such as these - and keep on producing them, Alma and colleagues!

Nancy Falchikov

 

Subject: Hang Tough
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:51:00 -0600
From: "Pamela Cromwell" <pamelac@zianet.com>
To: <almalopez@earthlink.net>

Dear Alma,
 
Just a note of encouragement.  I'll be publishing an essay in defense of your work and the museum's right to exhibit it in the next issue of our monthly arts & culture magazine in Ruidoso (NM).  People like Villegas are very frightening because they easily become irrational and threatening.  I'm sure the number of reasonable people in NM outnumber the fanatics (at least, I hope so), and I hope their voices are heard, too, as well as yours.
 
Pamela J. Cromwell

 

Subject: [AztlanNet] Re:Tonantzin-Guadalupe sited in Santa Fe
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:31:41 -0000
From: "michael sedano" <mvsedano@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com
To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com

Pedro, a strong woman is a strong mother is a strong woman. The images are one in the same.

While I admire your clear headedness in defending your position, you've now reverted to picking at nits.

It's too bad the museum people elected to do a pastiche of your church. The museum is a secular place. I'd enjoy a visit. I'm sure, though, the context would inform my response to the installation. I'd be constantly be aware that I'm not in church, this is a museum. I'd look at the secularization of the shrine, or the curator's use of the ritual of the stations of the cross, and smile, noting that the _result_ of the installation, despite any artistic intention, constitutes a subtle proselytization. Ironically, this would mean your religion blinded you to the religiosity of the piece!

Thank you, I admire a good discussion. But your tactic of jumping all over a single phrase, "strong image of a woman" and substituting the gloss, "a strong mother" is clever but misses the whole point. Pedro, a strong mother is a strong woman is a strong mother. The images are one in the same.

Regards, mvs

 

Subject: VIRGEN DE GUADALUPE
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:23:27 EDT
From: MuzioSF@aol.com
To: jice@moifa.org, TMNunn@moifa.org, almalopez@earthlink.net,tlennox@juno.com

DEAR DR. ICE: I AM STILL RECOVERING FROM A BROKEN LEG AND WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING AT SWEENEY CENTER ON APRIL 16 TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE NEW INQUISITION CONCERNING THE RIGHT OF AN ARTIST OR A GALLERY OR A MUSEUM OR A COMMUNITY OR A NATION TO EXHIBIT ART WORKS WHICH SOME WITH NARROW VIEWPOINTS REGARD AS SACRILIGIOUS. PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THIS EXHIBITION BY WOMEN HISPANIC ARTISTS, REPRESENTING A YOUNGER GENERATION WHO STRUGGLE TO MAKE THEMSELVES HEARD POLITICALLY AND SEEN ARTISTICALLY, CENSORSHIP, BY MALES WHO FEEL THREATENED IN THEIR AUTHORITY, MUST BE DENIED. MUSEUMS, BY MODERN STANDARDS, ARE NOT MERELY REPOSITORIES OF PAST WORKS, BUT ALSO FORUMS FOR NEW IDEAS, OR NEW VIEWS OF OLD IDEAS, AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE IDEAS BY WHICH WE LIVE AND TRY TO MAKE THE WORLD BETTER THAN THE ONE WE INHERITED......WILLIAM E. HOUSTON, SANTA FE, N.M.

 

Subject: Re: [AztlanNet] Re:Tonantzin-Guadalupe sited in Santa Fe
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:34:54 -0700
From: Dorinda Moreno <dorinda@pacbell.net>
Reply-To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com
To: AztlanNet@yahoogroups.com
References: 1

Thank you Michael and all who have responded to this issue in support of Alma Lopez, the artists expression, and to Chicana's.

Pedro, I am most respectful of the New Mexican honoring of 'La Virgen' and the catholic religion, but, as Michael has said, this is art and a museum. and, la virgen is an expansive figure borrowed and stolen from the indigenous people for some 500 years and it is particularly Chicana's that have reclaimed her in their own image. one only has to read anita brenner's 'idols behind altars' to understand her use by the catholic church to appease and to win over the nahuatl beliefs in their own dieties by adopting her into the fold of catholicism. Tonantzin and Cuatlicue are ours as the reclamation of our legacy and in so doing we transform the catholic church to our needs and ideologies. it cannot stay the same and it has not. it has become closer to a liberation theology model as established by the Monsignor Romero's, the Leonidas Proano's, Camilo Torres', and the revolutionary rifle toting Jesus that Mexicano's have offered to offset the commercialization of the people's religion. religion belongs to the people and catholicism is practiced uniquely at every corner of the globe. observe the carnaval of brazil, new orleans... that reflects the african influence and the vestiges of the slave trade. perhaps, some new mexicans may see this is a grandiose bachannal ball and not the pristine religion they understand and practice, but it is the last fling before lent and easter and the b'earth of the christ child as you have come to understand it. perhaps, new mexico is somewhat protected in its hidden wealth of tradition, but artists such as Alma and others will force its coming into present day modes of thought and action by challenging the very fact of the virgen's historical significance. the dialogue is profound, and we have played a hand at the guadalupe also being political, look at how she is revered by the farmworkers and the great Cesar Chavez, flag unfurled in Santa Fe with Cesar at the university some years back and i was there to take part, as profound as the murals of Jesus by transplanted Eastlos artist: Gilberto Guzman. and, consagrada as the tierra bendita of Chimayo, sister church to Esquipulas in Guatemala, are also sacred stories that belong to the people-- that the catholic church was made to recognize and adopt as the beliefs and traditions of the people they portend to serve. if the church is not made real to the diversity of her followers, it will eventually fade from thier adherance and support. the revolutionary priests have died trying to change the church, as the work of our artists also take up this antorcha... who will win by this, the people... we love the virgen, as a militant, in tennis shoes, and even when clothed in a bikini of flowers, she like we have been victimized by the elitests, by those that drew the divine line, by those who ate the bread and drank the wine. i say, why can't women be priests? why can't priests marry? why isn't abortion available to all that seek it's availability? the rigidity of yesteryear is fading fast when Chicana's take our responsibilities to fight the last stand of false male superiority and forsake a tradition that has kept women isolated, alienated, and is having its last gasp thanks to the art of the Alma's of the world. We need your intelligent support to break through the many siglos of ignorance that we are confronting in this issue in New Mexico. Think about it. when the people lead, the leaders will follow.

dorinda guadalupe moreno

 

Subject: Re: CyberArte - The Inquisition of 4/4
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:35:15 EDT
From: Jaketorch@aol.com
To: almalopez@earthlink.net

Dear Ms. Lopez.

Be strong against this censorship. Your work is beautiful and deserves to be praised not censored. For ages all we have seen are pictures of the Virgin as nothing but a mother, not as a woman. The Virgin is first a Woman, and second a Mother. Your work shows her as a women. Something that is so obvious, but so many refuse to see.

The "religious" men that seek to ban your work do so because you have finally shown them that the virgin is a women. They can never come to terms with the fact that the creator of their savior is a women. (Which is why women are banned from any service in religion other than servant.) To hide this they cover her in veils and long dresses and robes. They hide the fact she is a woman. You have taken away the robes and veils. You in your own way have given the Virgin back her womanhood that was stolen by the church.

Bravo! Ms. Lopez. You have done more for the enlightenment of religious thought than all of these hypocrites put together. I salute you on you bravery, imagination and artistic ability.

I will do all I can to help. Thank you for your time

Sincerely,

John J. Nauke

 

Subject: [Fwd: support Alma Lopez]
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:03:35 -0400
From: Robin Greeley <rgreeley@rci.rutgers.edu>
To: almalopez@earthlink.net

Dear Alma,

I hope you are hanging in there! I admire your work, both this Guadalupe and other images of yours that I've seen. Your Guadalupe seems so much in the great Chicana tradition of artists like Yolanda Lopez, Ester Hernandez, et al., that it is hard to imagine why Mr. Vallegas is objecting so much. I guess it just makes plain that we have a lot more work to do in making the world a reasonable place to live. I'm forwarding a letter of support I wrote to the Museum.

In any case, I would like to introduce myself: I am an art historian of Latin American and Latino/a art, at the University of Connecticut.

Before I got this job, I lived in California; I'm having severe West Coast withdrawal symptoms, and plan to visit this June (these days I have to "research" all the art/culture I used to just live in the middle of). If you are around and agree, I'd like to pay you a studio visit, to see what you're up to and see that you've survived the current crisis (which I'm sure you will!).

Yours,

Dr. Robin Adele Greeley
Assistant Professor of Art History
Department of Art & Art History
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269-1099
email: robin.greeley@uconn.edu
Rockefeller Fellow
Institute for Research on Women
Rutgers University
Editorial Board
Art Journal
CAA
275 Seventh Ave.
New York, NY 10001

 

Subject: Re: CyberArte - The Inquisition of 4/4
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:51:24 -0600
From: gloria nieto <globall@cybermesa.com>
To: <almalopez@earthlink.net>

Alma-

I forgot to mention something to you. I have been thinking about the movida we need to make if they decide to take the art down.

I am asking every Chicana I know to do this action with me if the worst happens, the art must come down. The morning of the removal, we are going to the museum and chaining ourselves to the door. the door is perfect for this because there are two handles almost connected and we can run a chain through it. Then we will take our shirts off and cover our chichis with flores. If you think those men have a problem with women's bodies, wait til they get a load of their sisters in chains and flores!!! Not one woman has said no to this idea.


What do you think?
Gloria

 

Subject: SOMETHING ABOUT MARY
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:24:55
From: "Jemela Mwelu" <jmwelu@hotmail.com>
To: Almalopez@earthlink.net

I'm sending you love strength from the eastcoast here in New York.

I'm in the process, believe it or not, of moving this summer from here to Santa Fe, New Mexico to expand my healing knowledge.

I read about your photo collage on display in New Mexico. Noni also told me about the work.

I say "go ahead with you bad self!" I'm proud you're speaking out for us women and elevating us to our rightful place on this planet.

I hope the day will come when men will learn to love us more and fear our strength less. I know the blessed mother is smiling, and blessing your artistic expression. She wants the world to respect and acknowledge the many faces of womanhood.

I'm sure she will make an appearance again somewhere in the world again as is her nature, and show herself to some believer. The non-believers are the most fearful of the godlight within her and themselves.

Keep embracing the light!

In light, love and sisterhood,
Jemela Mwelu